Mountain Bike Vs Gravel Bike | Can Roadies & Mountain Bikers Ride Together?

Mountain Bike Vs Gravel Bike | Can Roadies & Mountain Bikers Ride Together?


(bell rings) – Ah, lunch time. – Yeah, favorite time of day, Henry. – How are you getting on, bud? – Oh good, I’ve got chocolate today, quite looking forward to that. – Oh, lovely. I’ll tell you what Chris, did you see the other day, that video on GCN where Dan and Si kind of laid
into mountain biking a bit? – Yeah I did actually and I was really surprised, I thought it was really good. – Oh I mean, – [Both] It was so good because it was so. – True. – Ridiculous. What? – Oh. – Your big mountain bike’s even got road wheels on it these days. It’s not a mountain bike anymore, is it? – You don’t know what
you’re talking about. (slapping) – You’ll do anything Cannondale guys do. – I don’t even know what that means! – You just love Taylor Fitty. You love him so much. – I’m here in the beautiful Cotswolds with the unabideable Chris Opie. A few weeks ago, we had
a bit of a falling out. And I just thought, “This isn’t right, having friends divided
over something so silly.” – I am here at these
spectacular hills around Striage to settle a score with the
unbearable Henry Quinney. You see, a couple of weeks
ago, we got into a little disagreement and I thought
it was such a shame to fall over something so arbitrary. – I arranged something of a peace summit. And Chris, even as a
guest in my humble abode, couldn’t help himself, and we quickly got into a heated discussion. He had a rage in his heart, that not even my homemade
moussaka could quell. And what was it, what
was the cause of his ire? Well, it was a committal
to a dangerous ideology: Gravel biking. – I offered something of
a peace summit, but Henry, even as a guest in my
family home for dinner, kept on trying to stick the knife in, and we got into a fierce
debate, driven by anger and hate that not even my homemade
lasagna could quell, – As I pragmatically suggested that all bikes are indeed gravel
bikes, he became enraged. He threw his wine into my wife’s face, grabbed his jacket off the hook, where I so carefully left it to dry, and stormed off into the night. – As I gently suggested that gravel bikes do indeed have their
place, he became enraged. He threw his cheap lager
into my wife’s face. He whipped his jacket off the hook, where I so carefully left it to dry, and he stormed off into the night. – I naturally was both
shocked and appalled, but I’m not interested
in indulging his menace. – I naturally was both
appalled and shocked, but I’m not going to indulge
in his petty nitpicking. – I want to heal some wounds
and bridge the divides. So, we’re going to go for a ride. We’re going to have a nice ride. – I’m here to heal some wounds
and bridge some divides. We’re going to go for a ride. And it’s going to be a good ride. – Not even Chris and his gravel biking- – Not even Henry Quinney
can get in the way. – Oh, what are you doing here? What you filming? – Oh, we’re doing the How to Get legs like Chris Opie GCN video. – I thought we said we’d
will be here at 10 o’clock. – Well you didn’t. – How to cope with Chris
Opie’s unabideable ego. – It’s pretty big. I’ll
see you back here at 10. – 10 o’clock. – You bring some big legs, Henry. – I’ll bring any legs I’ve got. One hour later. We decided to the climb together before getting our ride underway. – Check out my drop handle bars. – So, let’s get this
ride started in earnest, we’ve already got our route planned. It’s all downloaded. – Yep. – Just start the engines and away we go. – The record’s an hour and 40, Henry. – Oh good god. Don’t know about that. Don’t you guys just drink soy lattes, isn’t that the deal? – No, espresso. (laughter) – A bit narrow over here, but after you. – No, I insist, after you. I don’t know if your
tires are going to fit, it’s that narrow. You better go first. – That’s a very clever joke. After you. – No, no. You know all
about World Cup down hills, you go first. – He’s just such a nice man. Can I just say that choice of your bike. I mean, it’s not a road bike, but I think it’s very sensible to bring something that is a road bike, even though it’s not a road bike for the, for the hills. It’s perfect. – It’s a lovely color, isn’t it? – It is indeed. – Just like your foot on
downhill rig there, Henry. I mean it’s perfectly suited to the terrain we’re currently riding on. And it’s red! – As someone as wise as yourself, I have to take that Chris because you’re a very sensible man. – That’s my middle name. Chris Sensible Opie. – Oh, is it? I thought
it was Gravel Grinding. (laughter) There’s, um, a lot of doggers about today. – Well, it’s quite normal in this part of the world, Henry, actually. – I heard it’s a bit of a hot spot. I mean there’s Labradors,
sausage dogs, everything. – Uh, yeah. I think you may have
misinterpreted some of that, Henry. – Well, they got dogs
and they’re dog walkers. It’s slang for dog walker. – If that’s what you want to believe. – Okay, I just heard it’s
really, really popular. – I think you’re missing something, mate. Did you ever collect dog eggs, Henry? – Dog eggs, what are they? – Dog eggs, they’re like, uh, chocolate festive yule logs. – Oh wow. – Yeah. – Are they sourced locally? Oh skills. – Right, you go that way. – Low life, I’m taking
the moral high ground. (music) – Great brakes on the gravel bike. – Well, I tell you what mate, it’s a good thing you’re
not on a road bike. – You know what I was thinking just that because this road is out. And this is where this
will probably get scary. – Basically an ATV. Incredible machinery. – I don’t think even
Jeff the Jeep Blake’s one could get done here. – No, I think you’re right. I mean it’s good job that I’ve got this. This is to road biking what
Jeff the Jeep is to cars. – Sacré bleu! (music) – I tell you what, mate, I’m actually, dare I say it, having a lovely time. – I told you gravel was amazing. It’s really nice to be swinging around, oh bit of a bridge here. After you, mate. – Well, you’re going to have to walk, your bike won’t fit. Insist, after you. – No, no, no, Chris.
Come on now. After you. – What, no, no, please.
Dismantle and carry on. – Honestly, I wouldn’t, I
wouldn’t allow it. After you. – The only way to settle this- – The only way. – The only way. We’ll
just go at the same time. – Yeah, I’m happy with that. Right. – Ready? 3. – Breathe in. – 2, 1, Go. – Let me just get my handle bars in there. – Yeah, you got big wide bars on you. – Easy does it, easy does it. – I feel like I’m going to
hit this thing in a minute, – Oh my god. – Putting my hands in to the middle. – Oh yeah, okay. – Mate, I’m nearly hitting the patch. – We’re going to do this. – Oh my god yes. – Yes! Woo! – I’ll tell you what the one bit of a gravel road riding cold truck I can really get on board with is all the coffee and
cake. How does that sound? – I think right now it’d be
the perfect time to stop. – Straight to the bike rack. – Right, I’m just going to go and pay. – No, no. Let me go and pay. – No, no. – Honestly- – Henry, please. – Sit, sit down. – No, you sit down. – Why are your quads so strong? – It’s all the squats I did. – Outrageous. Let me pay. My treat. – How about we split the bill? – 60-40. We’ll call it 60-40. – Henry, it’s good of you to pay 60%, but I left them a 30 quid tip. – Oh, you piece of sh- – Where are we going, Gravel Grinder Opie? – Up hill. – Oh. Smash it. (music) – Henry, I’m so glad I gave you coffee. It’s really kicking in. Let’s climb. Let’s go. – I’m, you know, you know,
struggling for traction myself. – Yeah, I was going to say, how gnarly do you go on gravel bikes? – Well, this descend
is probably the limit, to be honest if you want to go fast. – It’s still pretty cool
to be out in the open. – It gets you out and about, eh? – I mean those flats, how
they’re working for you? – I love flats. Flat pedals TID. – Absolutely love them. (music) – So, you’re obviously,
predominantly, avid cyclist. – I am, Henry. – Now, what’s your- do
you do much gravel biking? Is it something you enjoy? – Well a little bit. I quite enjoyed my day out with Steve Jones back in May or June. – Oh, yeah. – EMBN vs Gravel. – Yeah, that was pretty cool. I’ve seen you guys get up to some pretty cool trips to
Iceland and all sorts. I think even Neil joined
you for that one of those. – Uh, yeah. Didn’t he go with Si? They did some bike packing and a little of off road gravel riding. – So cool. – I think the thing about
these bikes is, it’s a gateway. A gateway drug to actual mountain biking. (laughter) Because I’m on this and it’s really cool, but I know that I’m a lot happier if I had a full on mountain bike. – Yeah. – I mean that should take
for some gnarly trails. – Yeah, it’s pretty cool.
I mean cross country, I think both to us it’s a form of riding that we actually just
really, really enjoy. – Yeah, ’cause you go
places, you see stuff that you don’t see if you’re doing just runs up and down a hill. Or if you’re out for a walk or stuff because you don’t go very far, but on a cross country mountain bike, you can do 40, 50, 60 miles. And you see loads of stuff and you hit hit those really cool trails that you just don’t get to otherwise. – Exactly, exactly. I
do like this as well. Not too shabby, eh? – It’s not bad, is it? Oh, car park. – That was your poundcake. – A lot of dogs turning up in
this neck of the woods, eh? – Yeah, well I guess it’s rife basically. Rife in this part, part of the woods. – I mean I’ve seen all sorts of nice little fellas and,
lady, lady dogs, I guess. We’ve seen Spaniels, we’ve seen Labradors, we’ve seen all sorts. – I wonder where you go with that. I still kind of feel like you don’t get the point about dogging, Henry. I think we need a little chat. – Okay. – Some good trails there.
Should we get going? – Yeah, let’s get going. – It’s a bit more mountain biking, a bit more your terrain
and a bit less this. ‘Cause I kind of feel we’ve done a lot of gravel-esque riding. – Mm hm. Right, let’s get into it. – Come on. (music) – Right, you’ve mentioned dogging a few times today. – Yeah. – And I, as much as I’ve
enjoyed you talking about it. – Right. – I kind of feel you’ve gotten the wrong end of the stick. – Have I? – It refers to something else. (whispers) – They do what in their cars?! – Yeah. – And what do the dogs do
while they’re in there? – There are no dogs, Henry. – I don’t get it. So, is this like a club?
Do you pay display? (music) – Oh, Henry. That was phenomenal. I felt so economy, you
looked so business class. (laughter) – What a smooth operator. You going to make me blush. – I reckon we can find some more of that. – I reckon we can, let’s do it. – Oh, what do we have here? Oh, more single track. – Oh my god. There’s nothing to see here! Get out of here. Running British countryside. Doggers! What are they like? Here with their Labradoodles and Spaniels. Outrageous. (music) – Come on, Henry. Allow me to assist you. – They said chivalry was dead. – God, that’s light for a downhill bike, isn’t it, Henry? – Not quite a downhill bike, but I like your enthusiasm.
Thank you very much. – Come on, to the right. (music) – See? It doesn’t have all to be extreme- – Extreme, right. Check out my air! – Oh my god. This guy. – We seem to be working
our back on the road a bit. – That’s what this thing’s
built for, isn’t it? Just with knobby tires, really efficient. A bit like a baggy trousers
they look great on the road. – Oh, well, not so quick
but a bit more modest. – Are we cracking on up there, bud? – That’s it. The final
push to the very top. – Oh, lovely. – Your climbing’s looking
excellent today, Henry. – Oh, such a nice man. – Oh, the grip levels. – So, you got a pedaling
platform on that bike? – A pedaling platform? This is fully rigid, Henry. – Oh my word. – The ultimate pedaling platform. – This is sabotage. – No, I’ve got a grip. – Now we’re doing cyclocross. – No, gravel. Strictly gravel. What’s this, you’re
pushing? That’s cheating. – How many workout can my quads get? – I’ll buy you a coffee if you get straight up to the top. – Straight up? – Straight up. – See, you cyclocrossers or gravel riders, think you’ve got monopoly on carrying your bike up horrible things. But in mountain biking, there’s
no school at the old school. Sometimes, you just got earn our turns. – Yeah. I’m just happy that whatever goes up, must come down. Looks like a wall from here. – It does look like a wall. (music) – King of the World stuff. Literally on top of the world. – I’m not sure if that was gravel or mountain biking, to be honest with you. – I don’t think it had anything to with riding a bike at all. (laughter) That was just a scramble up climb. – Oh look, almost at the top. – That is literally the
highest point of the ride. – Let’s do it. – You first. – Oh, what a nice guy. (music) – There we go! – Nice! – Cheers for that. That
was a really good ride. – Check out that view. You can literally see for miles. – It’s unreal. – You know the best bit about this? – Go on. – It’s downhill all the way back. – Exclusively downhill? – Almost exclusively downhill. – A part from the up hills? – Yes. – And the flat bits? – Yes. (laughter) – You know what, Chris? Gravel biking doesn’t
actually seem that bad. – No. – I’m sorry for the fight. I’m sorry for talking about
you behind your back so much. I’m also sorry for running
the website Chrisnopie.com, but that we take it down
with immediate effect. – I didn’t know about that. But, Henry, honestly, actually I’m the one that should be sorry. Not only for my hurtful comments, but also for running, and subsequently monetizing the Instagram page
about how stupid you are. It’s a spiteful action.
I’ll stop it immediately. And also, actually, I
love riding any bike. It doesn’t matter how knobbly, or how slick, the tires are. – Well, I was actually thinking, you know, you’re always going to be faster than me with the climbs, but maybe I’ve got more experience riding tactical descents. So maybe I should be on the gravel bike, and you should be on the full bouncer. – That sounds like a plan because actually deep down, I love mountain biking. – Where are you going? – Swapsies. See you at the bottom. – Uh, yeah. I mean some of this is
actually quite steep. Could we maybe hit the pub? Just when I start to like the guy. – I’ll tell you what Chris, there’s nothing like a stiff shandy at the end of a good ride. Thank you very much for coming. – Thank you for having me. – Yeah, it’s been really, really good and I think we’ve demonstrated, that maybe there’s some harmony between bikes. – Yeah, I mean ultimately
we’re just on bikes. – Yeah. – And that’s all that matters. – That’s all that matters. If you enjoyed this video,
give it a big thumbs up. If you want to stick with GBM right now, check out my little video
that went out in September. – And if you want something maybe in a similar sort of thing, and watch me enrage the e-bike community, click down here for that one. Don’t forget to like and subscribe, and we’ll see you next time.

100 comments

  1. Gives new meaning to seeing Blake give a trail-dog a "Super Nice"; I won't be able to think the same thing again (I'm from the US).

  2. FFS Gcn presenters please for the love of God! Wear baggy shorts like a proper mountain bike rider, your walnut whip is off putting. I know it's close to xmas and chipolatas are in season but we don't need to know what religion you are

  3. Gravel is not a 'gateway drug' getting roadies into MTB. This is fake news! Gravel is the slippery slope for upstanding MTB riders to decend into the world of ROAD! I am 41yo and I have witnessed civilised MTB veterans fall prey to these curly barred demons. Now they ride on roads in the summer, act like XC is an adrenaline rush and say things like, "I think a vegan diet and cross-training is the best way to get bike fit". I say, 'not on my watch!' Want to get fitter; ride your mountain bike. Want to have a great ride; go to the woods and ride down a dangerously steep incline. PLEASE DON'T LEAVE THE BOYS IN THE WOOD TO RIDE THE ROAD TO PURGATORY 😂😂😂

  4. Lame, almost a mtb trail in there but nothing real…. try Blake on any trail he picks. You did a good job of showing us that a road bike is no longer needed. Just a spare let of wheels on my gravel bike will do.

  5. This video is yet more evidence to me (note: American) that gravel or dirt roads simply don't exist in the UK. This is all single track and pavement. No wonder British riders think gravel bikes are marketing BS, they have nowhere to ride them.

  6. does anyone want to explain the "doggers" joke for people on the other side of the pond? I even tried urban dictionary and was still confused about exactly what the joke was except that clearly Henry was confused and Opie was too embarrassed to tell him outright

  7. These days, I don't think I have done a 100% trail or road route. Here is what it comes down to: riding from home, am I going to do more road or trail riding as a percentage of the total route? As an MTBer, I now appreciate having the gravel option to handle non-tarmac things a bit better. But I always look at it through an MTB lens.

  8. I must be in constant circle of self hate, fear and loathing as I ride road, mountain and gravel bikes. Luckily there is no cure.

  9. Fun vid. But you cut off the best bit! I want to see Opie on the gravel bike and Henry on the Gravel bike go down the hill, Opie has skills on that gravel bike, would be good to see him on a proper off road rig. I can say that as I do Gravel and Trails depending on the terrain is which bike I take.

  10. You and EMBN have, by far, the best production vidoes about our sport, bar none. I have learned so much about techniques and maintenance from your channel that has contributed to my greater enjoyment every week. There's no one that even comes close. Than you.

  11. Who gives a buggar! Just ride what and where you like. Pissed about the waste of a good sandy and a gob full of wine. Good laugh. Regards Tony Sadler South Wales uk

  12. Awesome video, lots of fun. I am a roadie who also rides MTB and is just getting into gravel. Can you guys do a profile on your bikes? I'd love to know more about what you were riding and where the pros and cons are for the bikes you're riding. For example, how big were Opie's tires and would it have been better had he been riding something bigger?

  13. Cool video guys. Also just watched the Trail Vs downhill bike vid from Sept 2017. How about a new humongous group challenge with downhill, trail, hardtail, xc maybe even ebike… Would be really interesting to see the relative strengths and weaknesses. The ghost overlay of bikes is cool too… Would really highlight different lines taken by the different bikes. Cheers!

  14. Given the choice of environment I would choose a mountain biker environment because I drive quite a bit and I would not want to inhale the fumes that the cars give off. plus the fresh countryside air on those mountains, hills.. "and what do the dogs do in there?!!" so funny so well scripted. superb bit of film.

  15. This was an incredibly clever piece. Very Will Farrell’esque. Funny, entertaining, and not the least bit informative -and that’s ok ! Just kidding on that last part.

  16. With all the spandex involved, and dealing with/annoying other road users, it was always going to be a mountain bike for me. And the scenery's so much better off-road. I can honestly see no advantages to using road-bikes at all, but each to their own. So long as people are cycling, who cares where they're doing it.

  17. Maybe consider turning off your computer while filming, Chris. 😉 Or, if possible, just muting the sounds. It kinda ruins the illusion that this is a casual activity between colleagues, rather than a scripted, planned, purpose-filmed presentation when the thing chirps at the beginning of each scene.

  18. Road 40 miles on my Orbea Avant yesterday, and today I road 12+ miles of trails on my Ghost SLAMR X5. N+1 Gentlemen, N+1. N+1 is the number of bikes that is sufficient. The correct tool for the ride at hand.

  19. If those GCN roadies aren't gay, why are they always displaying their junk through their spandex? Hey guys, leave those displays for the pride parades.

  20. Just across the bridge that they squeeze through, the field to the left. That's where me and my friends meet for a night time smoke hahahaha WTF!!!! Ebley, Gloucestershire!!

    Edit: Could of showed you a few trails in Randwick Woods too! Unreal! Cant believe you guys were there!!

  21. both gmbn, gcn, and the hole industry seem to have forgotten something. It's called mtb hardtail, it's better than a gravel, and better than a dual suspension for riding a park.

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